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Terms of Service pilicy Change and Fines against customers
BREAKING:
has quietly updated their TOS to include fines for content they don't agree with. Beginning on January 1, 2024, they will be fining users who commit perceived violations on their bandwidth. Who knew in America that the phone providers would now be policing the content of your text messages to fine you. S.H.A.F.T. is an acronym that stands for Sex, Hate, Alcohol, Firearms, and Tobacco. It outlines the categories of text messages specifically regulated due to moral and legal issues and is monitored and enforced by the Cellular Telephone Industries Association (CTIA) and the mobile carriers. Who gets to determine what is and isn't "hateful"? Will political text messages be censored now as well going into 2024? This is what
did to me in 2019/2020 when I ran for Congress. I warned people that it would happen to others when nobody did anything to stop this when it happened to me as a congressional candidate! Nice TOS date change! Just in time for the GOP primary and 2024 presidential election! Nothing to see here!
- 2nd_AmendmentNewbie Caller
This has to do with their adverstisment not your personal phones messages or consumers in any way.
SHAFT is a handy acronym to help you remember types of content which is either forbidden or subject to special rules.S: Secually inappropriate content
H: Hate speech or profanity
A: Alcohol
F: Firearms, and depictions or endorsements of violence
T: Tobacco (including vaping), or endorsement of illegal or illicit drugs, including marijuana and cannabis
In addition to the above, the promotion of gambling is not allowed.
https://www.10dlc.org/en/shaft
Edit: Actually the 10dlc.org T-Mobile code-of-conduct links to a 2020 pdf. Somebody should probably tell 'em. =)
- henry51LTE Learner
@appleam22, “These power grabs are getting out of control.”
Less spam? That’s one power grab I think we’re all in favor.
- VSZNGRFXRoaming Rookie
RWC wrote:
BREAKING:
has quietly updated their TOS to include fines for content they don't agree with. Beginning on January 1, 2024, they will be fining users who commit perceived violations on their bandwidth. Who knew in America that the phone providers would now be policing the content of your text messages to fine you. S.H.A.F.T. is an acronym that stands for Sex, Hate, Alcohol, Firearms, and Tobacco. It outlines the categories of text messages specifically regulated due to moral and legal issues and is monitored and enforced by the Cellular Telephone Industries Association (CTIA) and the mobile carriers. Who gets to determine what is and isn't "hateful"? Will political text messages be censored now as well going into 2024? This is what
did to me in 2019/2020 when I ran for Congress. I warned people that it would happen to others when nobody did anything to stop this when it happened to me as a congressional candidate! Nice TOS date change! Just in time for the GOP primary and 2024 presidential election! Nothing to see here!
Where did this information come from?
- gramps28Router Royalty
Koreanhope wrote:
If this happens all military personnel will boycott Tmobile. Guaranteed!
It's not for the consumer.
- Calico5StringNewbie Caller
These “Terms of Service” changes only apply to “Commercial” users, not to the consumers.
Read the “Code of Conduct”, specifically section 5 (HERE: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/public-files/attachments/T-Mobile%20Code%20of%20Conduct.pdf)
This not a change of terms for the consumers.
More fake news...
- jasonkgreenNewbie Caller
I searched the TOS and found no use of the term "fine." Fairly sure this is fake news.
- gramps28Router Royalty
appleam22 wrote:
gramps28 wrote:
Koreanhope wrote:
If this happens all military personnel will boycott Tmobile. Guaranteed!
It's not for the consumer.
Is that supposed to make it better?! It shouldn't be for anyone. These power grabs are getting out of control.
It's for the spammers who send out text.
- mdarjanyNewbie Caller
Yes, it's a bad look. I am looking around looking to validate the "it's coming from the government," part. Freedom of speech is not regulated in any non-indentured service like the U.S. military--not by any entity. But I don't like the "TMobile is regulating our speech" part when it's potentially qualified. Either way is bad, but the assertion is not specific and we are jumping to inaccurate conclusions too quickly these days.
I make this mistake sometimes, too. I have grace with this stuff (OP) as I hope others would be gracious with my inaccuracies. But I would love it if we could validate anything before announcing it. A link to the TOS would have been a strong start.
- 2nd_AmendmentNewbie Caller
This has to do with their adverstisment not your personal phones messages or consumers in any way.
The non-compliance fine(s) (USD) will be assessed for every Sev-0 violation issued as follows: > Tier 1: $2,000, for phishing, smishing, and social engineering
> Social Engineering refers to the practice of targeting individuals in a way that manipulates individuals to reveal private information like credit card numbers, or social security numbers.
> Tier 2: $1,000, for illegal content (included content must be legal in all 50 states and federally)
> Illegal content includes, but is not limited to, Cannabis, Marijuana, CBD, Illegal Prescriptions, and Solicitation.
> Tier 3: $500, for all other violations including, but not limited to, SHAFT
> Please review the T-Mobile Code of Conduct Section 5.2 for a list of all disallowed content
Section 5.2 mentions, a.o, gambling, payday loans and work from home programs. The code of conduct also discusses opt out, that high opt-out rates will warrant investigation, etc
SHAFT is a handy acronym to help you remember types of content which is either forbidden or subject to special rules.S: Secually inappropriate content
H: Hate speech or profanity
A: Alcohol
F: Firearms, and depictions or endorsements of violence
T: Tobacco (including vaping), or endorsement of illegal or illicit drugs, including marijuana and cannabis
In addition to the above, the promotion of gambling is not allowed.
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> Tier 1: $2,000, for phishing, smishing, and social engineering
> Social Engineering refers to the practice of targeting individuals in a way that manipulates individuals to reveal private information like credit card numbers, or social security numbers.
> Tier 2: $1,000, for illegal content (included content must be legal in all 50 states and federally)
> Illegal content includes, but is not limited to, Cannabis, Marijuana, CBD, Illegal Prescriptions, and Solicitation.
> Tier 3: $500, for all other violations including, but not limited to, SHAFT
> Please review the T-Mobile Code of Conduct Section 5.2 for a list of all disallowed content
Section 5.2 mentions, a.o, gambling, payday loans and work from home programs. The code of conduct also discusses opt out, that high opt-out rates will warrant investigation, etc