Time to leave Tmobile.

NBTexas wrote:

I’m pasting my reply that I left on another thread. 
 

I searched T-Mobile website and I could not find anything. I decided to call and speak to a customer representative. 
I told her what I read but cannot verify the information on T-Mobile website. She researched non-compliance fines and shaft. She told me that T-Mobile has not made a decision about this policy. 
I clarified that this policy is being considered by T-Mobile. I asked her where can I find information about it. She told me there is nothing available yet. She read a paragraph that stated info on shaft and read T-Mobile will apply this policy on a case to case basis. 
I brought to her attention that what she read states T-Mobile is going to implement this policy or already is implementing it. She said yes. ( I don't think she understood the gravity of the policy). 
I asked who I can speak to about this and I explained that this is not okay ( I was very polite) and I will be sharing this information on social media. 
she placed me on hold when she came back she backtracked everything she just told me. She said her manager will report the information to upper-management and thank you for letting them know about the false information. 

She then said I forgot to get your name. I just chuckled. I gave her my name and told her great I'll probably be receiving a fine soon. 
As soon as I can I'm leaving all large carriers and going to try patriot mobile. I don't know what else to do. 
On a side note to the people who said this is absolutely not true. With all due respect and I come from a place of kindness. The days that we once knew of Civil liberties, privacy ethical business practices freedom of speech basically the constitution are being ignored and taken.  The government agencies that use to protect us are now being weaponized against everyday civilians. Please wake up before we lose all of our rights. 

I will leave TMobile too. I've heard of Patriot Mobile but don't know anything about it. Have you?

Anne45 wrote:

NBTexas wrote:

I’m pasting my reply that I left on another thread. 
 

I searched T-Mobile website and I could not find anything. I decided to call and speak to a customer representative. 
I told her what I read but cannot verify the information on T-Mobile website. She researched non-compliance fines and shaft. She told me that T-Mobile has not made a decision about this policy. 
I clarified that this policy is being considered by T-Mobile. I asked her where can I find information about it. She told me there is nothing available yet. She read a paragraph that stated info on shaft and read T-Mobile will apply this policy on a case to case basis. 
I brought to her attention that what she read states T-Mobile is going to implement this policy or already is implementing it. She said yes. ( I don't think she understood the gravity of the policy). 
I asked who I can speak to about this and I explained that this is not okay ( I was very polite) and I will be sharing this information on social media. 
she placed me on hold when she came back she backtracked everything she just told me. She said her manager will report the information to upper-management and thank you for letting them know about the false information. 

She then said I forgot to get your name. I just chuckled. I gave her my name and told her great I'll probably be receiving a fine soon. 
As soon as I can I'm leaving all large carriers and going to try patriot mobile. I don't know what else to do. 
On a side note to the people who said this is absolutely not true. With all due respect and I come from a place of kindness. The days that we once knew of Civil liberties, privacy ethical business practices freedom of speech basically the constitution are being ignored and taken.  The government agencies that use to protect us are now being weaponized against everyday civilians. Please wake up before we lose all of our rights. 

I will leave TMobile too. I've heard of Patriot Mobile but don't know anything about it. Have you?

All this is about spam messages not consumer sms.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/18q6id4/psa_laura_loomer_is_a_sensationalist_idiot_and/

This only applies to criminals. It only applies to people who are sending out mass text messages unsolicited. So this law makes sure that if a person sends out mass unsolicited texts with harmful misinformation, pornography, phishing scams etc. They can be held accountable for their crimes. Definitely don't join Patriot Mobile like some person on here suggested. Seems like a total scam. If you look them up on Google and click on the link to their web page it doesn't even exist. I looked them up on Wikipedia it says they're a conservative christian company so even if they do exist and aren't a scam you wouldn't want to give your money to people like that. They put the word patriot in their name to fool Trumpers into thinking they're legit. Even if they were legit they'll be subject to the same law that T-Mobile is. Every phone company will be.

You all are seriously beyond slow in the head to believe this as true 💀😂

People will believe anything they see on Reddit these days.. 

Nobody89652 wrote:

This only applies to criminals. It only applies to people who are sending out mass text messages unsolicited. So this law makes sure that if a person sends out mass unsolicited texts with harmful misinformation, pornography, phishing scams etc. They can be held accountable for their crimes. Definitely don't join Patriot Mobile like some person on here suggested. Seems like a total scam. If you look them up on Google and click on the link to their web page it doesn't even exist. I looked them up on Wikipedia it says they're a conservative christian company so even if they do exist and aren't a scam you wouldn't want to give your money to people like that. They put the word patriot in their name to fool Trumpers into thinking they're legit. Even if they were legit they'll be subject to the same law that T-Mobile is. Every phone company will be.

What are you rambling on about? This is an actual cell phone provider. You can't be serious that you weren't able to find their site, right? 💀 

https://www.patriotmobile.com/

I bet that this rumor probably got started by AT&T

A few things should be pointed out and discussed. First, that whole "we're doing this for your protection, don't worry about it" show is a red flag if I ever saw one. Of course they're going to lean on that. The motive is clearly censorship and sociopolitical influence. Otherwise, the terms discussed would be STRICTLY limited to spamlike content and not things like "illegal activity" or "misinformation". Speaking of that, WHO gets to decide what is misinformation and what isn't? A mobile carrier? No, they need to stay in their own lane. Circling around to mobile carriers, I see Patriot Mobile mentioned a few times. Don't fall for their marketing bs, because guess what, they're an MVNO which means they do not have their own network infrastructure. Patriot as well as any other MVNO must rely on a network provider and in doing so, has to play by THEIR rules. You might be interested to know that one of their partners is....drumroll, T-MOBILE! Just like Wal-Mart, just like Mint and that's why I am here. My service provider falls under T-Mobile so ultimately this affects me and practically anyone else who uses an MVNO that uses the T-Mobile network and sorry to tell you, Patriot too. They will HAVE to abide by T-Mobiles way of doing things.

All of this is of course moot from a usage standpoint if you're using a fairly current smartphone that uses RCS in lieu of standard SMS, since it's encrypted end-to-end. Basically only your recipient and yourself can see the content. This however does not change the fact that your money is landing in the pockets of a company with such draconian policies, and ultimately that's up to you to decide if thats an issue. 

alcedes wrote:

There has been a lot of reaction to this unnecessarily prompted by a defective understanding that Laura Loomer holds and has spread. Welcome to the world of misinformation. I'll explain what is actually happening and why there is no need for concern.

 

There are a number of entities that are authorized to access parts of the infrastructure of various mobile providers for purposes such as transmitting messages. Some VOIP providers might use such interfaces so that text messages sent by their customers can be delivered. These interfaces may also be used by providers such as Twilio to support SMS marketing campaigns and provide a way for computer services to interact with customers over text.

 

There has been a growing problem with dubious people and entities using text services to broadcast scam text, such as false reports of a package that could not be delivered, telling a person they can resolve the problem by filling out a form at an attached link. A person may think that by entering their name, address, and credit card number, that they are paying the $0.75 for shipping. Or that they are getting a refund for something. In reality, they are handing over details of their payment to dishonest people.

 

In furtherance of obstructing such efforts and other problematic messages, T-Mobile is informing non-consumer entities that they will bear a burden for pumping such messages into the T-Mobile network. The application of fees for violations may motivate some of these providers to filter these messages out and drop customers trying to scam people or engage in illegal activity. The parties on which this puts a burden are not T-Mobile phone customers. As a T-Mobile user, the likely effect this will have on you is that your chances of receiving scam text will go down. SCAM and SPAM text are a real problem, and T-Mobile is taking action to address it.

 

Ignore those that are invoking fear and outrage with misinformation about this. This is something that lowers your risks.  It was especially convenient of them to start this rumor at a time when people are taking off for the holiday and are away, unable to respond. 

A conspiracy theory is usually just the news come about 6 months early,notice t-mobile didn’t spread

this news through the mainstream media but attempted to hide it?Seems shady 

Well, this Sux. 

Pretty sure my good natured Spicey Blasts to friends and relatives could be construed as ‘hate speech’ to our “Big Brother” here.

Are the other big carriers going to have a similar policy?

Great to know they are monitoring our texts...what else are they monitoring?

Kitten80 wrote:

I seriously doubt this is true. They're suppose to legally inform users of something like this. Also as my husband (military vet) has pointed out- this would be a direct violation of our 1st amendment rights in which he would be talking to a civil rights attorney. 

So I'm sure this story is nothing but false (again, they have to legally inform their users of this). If it were true, T-Mobile wouldn't be the only cell provider doing this since all carriers fall under the FTC, FCC and various other communication agencies that fall within the federal government.

Check your terms of service. It's under the S.H.A.F.T acronym. So if you don't believe it, it takes effect January 1st and is in their own writing. One of them covers sexual and drug speech so don't ask your friend if they want to go buy some weed. Don't tell your lover you want to their brains out. And watch with the swear s.