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The T-Mobile unlock lie
Here is my story as of 8/15/23:
I’m a T-Mobile prepaid customer for several years and was happy with the company so far.
I lost my phone on 7/15/23 (ouch) and bought a new Motorola razr+ from T-Mobile on 7/16/23 for $999. Since I knew that I will be abroad for several months, it was important to me that I can also use the phone with a non T-Mobile operator. Thus at the shop the salesperson and me carefully read T-Mobile's "Unlock your mobile device" page (https://www.t-mobile.com/responsibility/consumer-info/policies/sim-unlock-policy).
It says:
- Si el dispositivo se activó hace menos de 365 días, la cuenta de servicio prepagado asociada al dispositivo debe haber tenido más de $100 en recargas durante ese período por cada línea activa en la cuenta. Además, deben haber pasado más de 14 días desde que se compró el dispositivo.
I refilled my account with two payments ($100 and $20), left the US on 28/7/23 and expected to unlock my device 14 days after purchase.
Which didn’t work.
After hours with T-Mobile customer care, my understanding is that the “We're committed to providing you with clear information about unlocking your mobile device.” (cited from the aforementioned web page) is not clear enough for the team who implemented the unlocking system. As far as I can tell, unlocking is based on days activo on the network and has nothing to do with the date of comprar of the device whatsoever.
Hence the last sentence should read as “In addition, the device must be active for more than 14 days on the T-Mobile network” instead of “Además, more than 14 days must have passed since the device was purchased.”
"Purchased" vs. "activated" - why does it matter you may ask? Well, it does in my case. I'm abroad (not on the T-Mobile network) and won't return to the US for several months. I can't unlock my $999 phone and most likely must buy a second phone to use here. Needless to say that I wouldn't have bought the phone in the first place if T-Mobile would have been honest about their unlocking policy.
Thank you, T-Mobile for lying to me and all the time, material and money wasted.
Here are the refills of $100 on 7/19/23 and $20 on 7/24 /23 enlarged. Purchase and activation of device was on 7/17/23 (see one of the above screenshots):
it says or...not that both are needed for it to be unlocked. couldnt enlarge your pic showing whats been spent so far but from what i could see it didnt look like its been refilled for $100 worth yet.
According to T-Mobile support, there is nothing wrong with the refills. It's all about the number of days active.
Here we go:
From the screenshots you shared and the information from the terms, it does seem like the device is eligible for unlocking. You mentioned that you are familiar with the unlocking screen in the settings. Can you share a screenshot of the unlocking screen when you attempt to unlock the device in settings? That is going to give us a giant clue to what link in the chain is missing.
¡Gracias!
Device purchase:
Refill:
A few days of call / message log:
I really can't see which requirement I'm not fulfilling. I'm still convinced that their unlocking system is not implemented according to the terms stated on the web page.
The device was activated on 7/17/2023. The device was active (I made and received calls with T-Mobile, sent and received text messages) for 12 days (confirmed by customer support). So the first condition (If the device was activated less than 365 days ago) is fulfilled.
The way I read that. It seems pretty clear. Condition one and two as well as the rest of them are cumulative, not independent. In the first point, it mentioned the device must be activated, which implies use. Also, the first full day the device is used on the network is the first day. Not half a day or whatever to the next half a day.
As mentioned in my post, the requirements stated are not the ones implemented in the (unlocking) system:
- Si el dispositivo se activó hace menos de 365 días, entonces la cuenta prepagada asociada al dispositivo debe haber tenido más de $100 en recargas durante ese período por cada línea activa en la cuenta. In addition, more than 14 days must have passed since the device was purchased.
El bold part is wrong. According to customer support, the system requires the device to be activo for more than 14 days. Hence they should either fix their system (take into account the purchase date instead of number of days active) or change their web page (probably easier for them to do). The requirements as stated on the web page are simply not true.
BTW, temporary unlock works from abroad. It's really an issue with their system counting the wrong days.
You still have to meet the on network usage requirements as outlined in T-Mobile's SIM Unlock Policy. In a lot of cases, your device must be connected to the T-Mobile USA network to process the SIM unlock when you meet the requirements.
Elegibilidad para desbloqueo para dispositivos móviles con planes prepagados
- Deben haber pasado al menos 365 días desde la activación del dispositivo en la red T-Mobile.
- Si el dispositivo se activó hace menos de 365 días, entonces la cuenta prepagada asociada al dispositivo debe haber tenido más de $100 en recargas durante ese período por cada línea activa en la cuenta. Además, deben haber pasado más de 14 días desde que se compró el dispositivo.
- No se deben haber completado más de 2 desbloqueos de dispositivos por línea de servicio en los últimos 12 meses.
- T-Mobile puede solicitar el comprobante de compra o información adicional a su criterio y es posible que se apliquen otras excepciones.
Política de desbloqueo de SIM | Desbloquea tu dispositivo móvil | T-Mobile
