Google Pixel 6?

Yeah me too!  I might go with the iphone instead. 

am321 wrote:

fireguy_6364 wrote:

then again their iphone 13 pre order thread only came out a couple days before the actual pre order..so its still a possibility..just wont hear anything info wise until then.

Also I do know of other devices that have been released in the past that ended up having their preorders start right when they're event was finished. This could be the same thing that they're doing with the Pixel 6. I just want to know if anyone to just give me a heads up of T-Mobile being an official branded carrier now, or am I just going to have to wait on to the event on the 19th?

also possible..im still a bit new to how TMO runs things over here..Sprint side that info was popped out soon as they could get permission...heck that pre order thread was already typed up and ready to fire up before they were given the go ahead so it everyone could get the info right off the bat and not have to wait.. different carrier different ways to do things.

JZ4377 wrote:

Yeah I tried to ask through the Chat on Tmobile app and  didn't really get an answer. It seemed like the associate was more interested in pushing the Iphone or android

So I just realized that you can use T-Mobile chat on their mobile website. So I started chatting with this person and her answer was contradicting herself. First she tells me that she has no information if it's going to be available or not at any time even after the 19th. Then in the same message she tells me that once it becomes available it's going to be listed at this link she gave me, (the phone part where you can purchase phones on T-Mobile's website). I told her what do you mean once it becomes available if you told me you don't know if it's going to become available. She ended up being all confused so I just ended up ending the chat. Which I have no problem with them telling me no that it's not going to be available, that they do not know or that they have no information at the time to give me, but telling me that they do not know and then once it becomes available it would be listed at a certain link in the same message to me is contradicting themselves because it could only be one or the other not both. 

So then I went back and attempted to chat with a second agent to get a better clear answer. The second agent is completely incompetent and told me you can check back to let you know when it's going to be back in stock again I had to explain to the agent that it's a brand new device and the pre-order start this Tuesday the 19th and it's not available yet for any carrier. The question is if it's going to be available for pre-order for T-Mobile or not and she completely ignored me and never responded back. I'm never getting a clear-cut yes, no, I don't know, maybe, possible. Nothing like that I get contradictions or they have no idea what I'm talkin about in think the phone is already released.

Then I attempted to call T-Mobile and there was a 45-minute whole time just right now, so I hung up and that was that. So I guess I just have to wait until the 19th and get a clear-cut answer then

For what it's worth... Before seeing this thread I had wondered the same thing... The lady I talked to on customer care seeeeeeemed like she was trying to tell me they would have them without being able to tell me they would have them... Convo went something like ... I don't know , we have no information but... On the 19th you should check out our phones sales page....

Jbear wrote:

For what it's worth... Before seeing this thread I had wondered the same thing... The lady I talked to on customer care seeeeeeemed like she was trying to tell me they would have them without being able to tell me they would have them... Convo went something like ... I don't know , we have no information but... On the 19th you should check out our phones sales page....

She's basically trying to tell you without directly telling you because she can't directly tell you. Which I will take that with at least a 90% chance, but I wouldn't take for a set in stone guaranteed 100% answer.

Also thanks for responding and giving me the answer, which honestly to me that gives me a lot of hope that it's coming on the 19th.

Yeah I personally took that as a... It's coming but I can't say but who knows... That being said... I looked back at the rest of the thread ... Generallyt speaking (and I mean always with extremely few exceptions...) If a company makes a phone as an unlocked direct from manufacturer device... I.e. apple and their iPhones, Samsung and the Galaxy lineup.  They will work without issue and have all the bands built in for all carriers.  This has been the case for a long time.  Example is apple sells various devices for various carriers but they are all the same phone.  The only difference is that the ones for carriers are locked to that carrier for the purposes of carrier financing.  But once the phone has been unlocked (i.e. you pay cash for phone or you payoff the lein) the phone is functionally  the same to any carrier's network.  The exception to this is when you see a device say... The LG V60 ThinQ which was made exclusively and marketed as such for att and I think maybe a Verizon model?  Those were unlockable and able to be brought to tmobile but lacked certain bans (also some bands were introduced after the phone was made).  So in the event Tmo doesn't do the pixel at launch if Google sells an unlocked one (you can check the bands they will publish upon release) it 99.99% will be good as if Tmo sold it direct.  (Promise I'm not making this up used to work in telecom on network and device side) 

Jbear wrote:

Yeah I personally took that as a... It's coming but I can't say but who knows... That being said... I looked back at the rest of the thread ... Generallyt speaking (and I mean always with extremely few exceptions...) If a company makes a phone as an unlocked direct from manufacturer device... I.e. apple and their iPhones, Samsung and the Galaxy lineup.  They will work without issue and have all the bands built in for all carriers.  This has been the case for a long time.  Example is apple sells various devices for various carriers but they are all the same phone.  The only difference is that the ones for carriers are locked to that carrier for the purposes of carrier financing.  But once the phone has been unlocked (i.e. you pay cash for phone or you payoff the lein) the phone is functionally  the same to any carrier's network.  The exception to this is when you see a device say... The LG V60 ThinQ which was made exclusively and marketed as such for att and I think maybe a Verizon model?  Those were unlockable and able to be brought to tmobile but lacked certain bans (also some bands were introduced after the phone was made).  So in the event Tmo doesn't do the pixel at launch if Google sells an unlocked one (you can check the bands they will publish upon release) it 99.99% will be good as if Tmo sold it direct.  (Promise I'm not making this up used to work in telecom on network and device side) 

To be honest with you that's not the case. The reason I say that is because 1st off before the iPhone was officially a part of T-Mobile. I had an unlocked iPhone and it was giving me all sorts network issues and I used to have a circle where the data was supposed to be. Which all these issues back then were known issues with the iPhone on the T-Mobile's network. Which obviously now since the iPhone has officially been apart of T-Mobile, iPhones work correctly on T-Mobile.

Then one of the main reasons why I even made this post was because earlier in the day I did some research and I saw multiple people on Reddit and other places complaining about any Pixel phone including the 5 not working properly on T-Mobile's network. I saw one person say that he went to T-Mobile and they told him that even unlocked it's not compatible with the network, so he walked right across the street to Verizon got an official branded Pixel and switched networks. Then I saw a common issue of people complaining that they were getting kbps data speed and the data was never working properly for them (probably because like the other guy said it wasn't compatible with their network even if it was unlocked). I even saw someone make another post about how the Pixel is not on the official approved network list of compatible unlocked phones. 

So with all that being said, I don't want to purchase the phone from Google and then take a chance that these issues occur for me. Then I would need to switch the phone to something that's officially carrier branded. Which I'll probably lose a lot of money because I'll not be able to return the Pixel phone for a full refund if it doesn't work on T-Mobile's network after I purchased it, used it, and tested it out to see this.

I should clarify a few things that should help.  The pixels when they launched were never billed as a fully unlocked phone.  We're you originally a Sprint customer or Tmo?  Back in the day when Google was launching the pixel line they went looking for a dance partner because back then if your name wasn't apple or Samsung the main way to get traction in the market was to partner with a carrier.  Sprint passed and Tmo wasnt interested.  The pixel 4 for example was a Verizon based device that also had some flexibility to go on other networks (game). What I mean by that is it was especially optimized for Verizon networks but did also work on Sprint and Tmo and att.  They were very clear with what bands it was capable of.  Also keep in mind at this time Tmo was doing a major network overhaul.  There were many bands on all networks that worked with the pixel 4 but Tmo especially who were expanding their network and Sprint who were deploying 4g like they didn't pick the wrong thing the first time (wimax) were enhancing as well.  One of the points of confusion for Tmo customers (and it still is) is as Tmo builds out it's network it's doing so on new bands.  When they show their network footprint they do so assuming you have the latest and greatest but older devices especially can't hit all those bands and it makes their network seem smaller and slower (because it is if you can't get the newer bands of network).  As previously mentioned when pixel 6 is announced take a look at the bands it supports (they will publish them) and then compare them to TMobile.  I would highly suspect that this new pixel will be compatible on all the 4g and 5g bands that Tmo is currently using.  If it is (and assuming Google doesn't release network specific devices (I highly doubt they will) then it doesn't matter where you get your phone from.  In terms of iPhone, what iPhone did you have?  Apple has been making iPhones for us sales that are fully compatible with all networks for... Ehh I dunno 4 or 5 years now... Maybe a little longer.  They did market and have different models for different carriers buttttt the radio receiver in them was entirely the same across all models.  That being said... The same above scenario still applies... Say you had a 4 year old iPhone from att and switched it to TMobile.  The issue here isn't that you had a att iPhone. It's that 4 years ago some of the bands that Tmo is using today didn't exist 4 years ago and thus even if you had a TMobile iPhone you'd be missing some of the possible bands to receive Tmo service from.  This has been less of an issue on the Verizon side as theyve had less network band movement .  But sprint and especially Tmo have had a lot of flex in the bands that are deployed for use by customers.  When in doubt take the specific model of whatever phone you're holding and look up what TMobile bands it's capable of finding. Then pull up a lost of all the current bands TMobile is using and see if you have some differences. 

Also not trying to give you a hard time or anything just want you to be comfortable getting the phone you want.  I should also mention it's pretty common for reps at stores to not get how the bands and network unlocks work under the hood.  In all fairness they really don't have to know, they just have to know hey if you try to bring a phone here are you going to be happy with the result or not.  But there's a technical layer under that that if you can get comfortable with you can do pretty much whatever the availbe tech and hardware at the time will let you do.

Jbear wrote:

Yeah I personally took that as a... It's coming but I can't say but who knows... That being said... I looked back at the rest of the thread ... Generallyt speaking (and I mean always with extremely few exceptions...) If a company makes a phone as an unlocked direct from manufacturer device... I.e. apple and their iPhones, Samsung and the Galaxy lineup.  They will work without issue and have all the bands built in for all carriers.  This has been the case for a long time.  Example is apple sells various devices for various carriers but they are all the same phone.  The only difference is that the ones for carriers are locked to that carrier for the purposes of carrier financing.  But once the phone has been unlocked (i.e. you pay cash for phone or you payoff the lein) the phone is functionally  the same to any carrier's network.  The exception to this is when you see a device say... The LG V60 ThinQ which was made exclusively and marketed as such for att and I think maybe a Verizon model?  Those were unlockable and able to be brought to tmobile but lacked certain bans (also some bands were introduced after the phone was made).  So in the event Tmo doesn't do the pixel at launch if Google sells an unlocked one (you can check the bands they will publish upon release) it 99.99% will be good as if Tmo sold it direct.  (Promise I'm not making this up used to work in telecom on network and device side) 

I've been a T-Mobile customer for 13+ years. Also I know that you're not trying to give me a hard time or anything like that. I'm just stating things back to you based on what I seen and my personal experience and just having a conversation with you and nothing else. Which I have absolutely no problems and no bad feelings of any kind towards you.