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I’ve posted an initial T-Mobile 5G experience with LG Velvet (in the fall of 2020), and a summer road trip / review in summer of 2021 on the east coast.

Here’s my basic review 1 ½ years after T-Mobile deployment of 5G.

5G signal (n71 SA/NSA) has still increased, but not very much since the summer of 2021. This may be in part due to COVID, and also in part due to T-Mobile revisiting sites to deploy n41, but is still increasing.
Performance overall on n71 SA (standalone) has actually decreased in many areas. Where I could obtain ~150Mbps on n71SA or 400Mbps on NSA with LTE, performance (speed) has dropped to 30-60Mbps typically on n71.
5G n41 (SA and NSA) has been deployed in my area over the past year, much of that in the past 6 months. n41 has been deployed to many communities. This is the good part. Many of these are typically on large macros, and is much more spartan than the maps show. Much of this is 5G n41 NSA, and only urban areas (i.e. LA Basin) have n41 SA deployed. Most sites that I've seen with 100MHz of n41 have backhaul capped to output a max around 750Mbps. A few sites push nearly double, giving ~1400Mbps (I've maxed nearly 1600Mbps).

Performance and Use

Actual 'generic' use - performance in general has been good .. in my area. Many other areas, whether urban or rural have issues where backhaul hasn't been upgrades, or Sprint sites merged. I do find myself from time to time roaming on Sprint B41,B26 or B25 on the edge of town where T-Mobile has 1 bar of LTE 600. Similarly, coverage maps have effectively removed GSM and 3G coverage where there's only 3G and 2G coverage. I do expect that T-Mobile keeps its '2G and 3G' coverage removed, as it will be gone in ~4 months.

General use performance is still 'hot and cold' islands. Many macros were upgraded, and many 'in between' are running on what appears to be T1's (that's another story).

To summarize: my area (and travels) have been getting better. Rural is still in need of upgrades and actual service in many places. Sprint cut over along with 2G/3G shutdown should be interesting. Verizon has posted its online C-band maps and coverage, which appears to be not too shabby.

My words for T-Mobile: Worry about keeping the Sprint / T-Mobile subs, which means fixing those rural areas, as well as the ‘hotspot’ style deployment.

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I’ve posted an initial T-Mobile 5G experience with LG Velvet (in the fall of 2020), and a summer road trip / review in summer of 2021 on the east coast.

Here’s my basic review 1 ½ years after T-Mobile deployment of 5G.

5G signal (n71 SA/NSA) has still increased, but not very much since the summer of 2021. This may be in part due to COVID, and also in part due to T-Mobile revisiting sites to deploy n41, but is still increasing.
Performance overall on n71 SA (standalone) has actually decreased in many areas. Where I could obtain ~150Mbps on n71SA or 400Mbps on NSA with LTE, performance (speed) has dropped to 30-60Mbps typically on n71.
5G n41 (SA and NSA) has been deployed in my area over the past year, much of that in the past 6 months. n41 has been deployed to many communities. This is the good part. Many of these are typically on large macros, and is much more spartan than the maps show. Much of this is 5G n41 NSA, and only urban areas (i.e. LA Basin) have n41 SA deployed. Most sites that I've seen with 100MHz of n41 have backhaul capped to output a max around 750Mbps. A few sites push nearly double, giving ~1400Mbps (I've maxed nearly 1600Mbps).

Performance and Use

General use performance is still 'hot and cold' islands. Many macros were upgraded, and many 'in between' are running on what appears to be T1's (that's another story).

My words for T-Mobile: Worry about keeping the Sprint / T-Mobile subs, which means fixing those rural areas, as well as the ‘hotspot’ style deployment.

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I suspect that it really depends on the site, and its overall status and where it is on being upgraded.

Eg. In my local city, in suburbia, sites are quite decent. In L.A. (San Fernando Valley), last night, I was getting 1-5Mbps, flipping between 5G and 4G LTE with 'full bars'. The 5G was coming from a different site, and wasn't UC. Regardless, 1-5Mbps is quite poor with 40MHz worth of LTE spectrum deployed on the nearby site.

All sites aren’t created/supported equally, some are more equal than others.

Eg. San Simeon being a 5G site had T1 backhaul, giving downloads of ~500kbps, while the site up at Hearst Castle was only 4G LTE on B4, pushing +120Mbps.

I suspect that a lot of the overall ‘network infrastructure’ varies do to colocation and easy access to fiber vs. the build your own/legacy sites.

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possible tower upgrades happening..or being removed..not to sure how theyre handling the switch around with previous Sprint towers that are either turning into TMO towers or just getting pulled..

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fireguy_6364 wrote:
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depending on where you are in SF every carrier has a problem there..merged over from Sprint but they had issues..TMO has issues..the ol lady and kids Verizon phones had issues keeping signal.
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I live in a flat area next to a major freeway and the map the last couple of years has shown ultra capacity. I also have a Verizon 4G phone that gets 50mbps+ all day every day sitting right next to my TMO phone and that sim works in my S21 Ultra just fine. I've contacted help for over a year and they either blame my phone or say it's a temporary issue with a tower... Sure.. This is my 10th year with TMO so I have a \"great\" plan costwise.. I just have to rely on wifi from comcast 24/7 (along with SMS/MMS/call issues from wifi calling). Or deal with living in 56k times.. I guess this is the carrier for nostalgic people?

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depending on where you are in SF every carrier has a problem there..merged over from Sprint but they had issues..TMO has issues..the ol lady and kids Verizon phones had issues keeping signal.

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I'm lucky to see 1mbps down with 4 bars of 5G in the SF Bay Area... 30-60 sounds like a dream.

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