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International Wifi Calls
I am trying to understand this. i was on an international call for over 3 hours. I thought since it was a WiFi call I would not get charged expensive international rates. After my call, I received a text that my call cost me $636.00.. That's $3 a minute charge. I think that is kind of outrageous for a WiFi call. Is this standard in the industry?
I just want to understand this practice. if they call me do I get charged the same or is it free because I am the one who answered the call?
Help me understand how this all works to see if I need to pursue other avenues to communicate with friends abroad I have made over the years.
Thank you for your time.
- tmo_stanTransmission Trainee
If you're in the US and use Wi-Fi calling to call internationally, you are still subject to your plans long distance charges. When you're outside the US, you can use Wi-Fi calling to call back to the US for free.
Incoming international calls are treated the same as any other incoming call, they are included in your plan.
There is a feature called Stateside International Talk that you can add on your plan for $15 a month that gives you free or discounted calling to other countries. Here's a link to the feature that lets you check if the countries you're calling are included:https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/international-calling#check-rates
- magentatechieBandwidth Buddy
Lo que estás haciendo Lo que se te cobra con Llamadas Wi-Fi - Recepción de llamadas y mensajes
- Llamadas a números telefónicos de EE. UU.*
- Envío de mensajes a números telefónicos de EE. UU.*
Si tienes un plan ilimitado:
- Llamadas entrantes: sin cargo
- Mensajes entrantes: sin cargo
- Outgoing calls and messages that you make to U.S. phone numbers: No fees
Si tienes un plan que no sea ilimitado, las llamadas y los mensajes cuentan para los límites de tu plan.
Llamadas a números telefónicos internacionales (que no sean de EE. UU.*)
Si estás en EE. UU.
Las llamadas Wi-Fi a otros países están sujetas a los cargos de larga distancia de tu plan. Consulta las tarifas internacionales desde EE. UU. para conocer los cargos por larga distancia.
Si estás fuera de EE. UU. (roaming internacional)
Si tienes un plan ilimitado:
- Cuando estás en un país de Simple Global, las llamadas cuestan $0.25/min. por roaming (igual que las móviles).
- Cuando estás en la red de un barco/transbordador, en la red de una aerolínea (en vuelo) o en países no incluidos en la lista de Simple Global, las llamadas de cobran a tarifas World Class.
Si no tienes un plan ilimitado, las llamadas a otros países se cobran a tarifas de llamadas World Class.
Envío de mensajes a números telefónicos internacionales (que no sean de EE. UU.*) Si estás en EE. UU.
Los mensajes enviados mientras estás conectado a Llamadas Wi-Fi están sujetos a los cargos de larga distancia de tu plan. Consulta las tarifas internacionales desde EE. UU. para conocer los cargos por larga distancia.
When you're outside the U.S. (international roaming)
Cuando estás en un país de Simple Global, los mensajes no tienen cargo por roaming.
Cuando estás en la red de un barco/transbordador, en la red de una aerolínea (en vuelo) o en países no incluidos en la lista de Simple Global, enviar un mensaje a cualquier país que no esté incluido en Simple Global cuesta $0.50 por roaming.
Uso de datos o Internet Nada. El uso de datos a través de Wi-Fi no usa la red T-Mobile. No los vemos ni cobramos por ellos. Conectarse a través de una VPN Una Red privada virtual (VPN) te conecta en forma segura a una red de otras computadoras. Mientras estés conectado, tu uso de Internet pasará a través de esa red, donde sea que esté ubicada.
When VPN connects your device to another country the first time, you'll receive a standard Welcome SMS, and you must enable data by dialing #RON#. Even if you're in the U.S. or a Simple Global country, you may be charged tarifas World Class.
https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/wi-fi-calling-from-t-mobile
If the call was international originating from the US, the best thing to do would be add Stateside International to your plan. Please note that Stateside only covers calls made over móvil and WiFi calls will be charged at the normal rates.
Hope this helps clear everything up!
- dymNewbie Caller
This is a very egregious use of an unregulated area of telecommunications. There needs to be restrictions placed on companies fleecing its customers like this. I.e. Before T-Mobile took over Sprint, you could travel anywhere in the world, switch to wi fi calling on any network and make free wi fi calls. This is because the wi fi foreign network that we connected to is covering any costs associated with its patrons use.
T-Mobile scraped Sprint’s less greedy policy and replaced it with the current one that makes it much more difficult to place true wi fi calling so that the vast majority of users are duped into thinking they are not paying for wi fi calls when T-mobile charges although its costing it ZERO to permit us to use wi fi calls freely.
Only because I am paying monthly on a phone have I stayed with T Mobile. Once I find time, I am going to switch.
- seakyleNewbie Caller
Happened to me today. I have international calling block. I got a phone call and not knowing it's from Canada. I returned the call and got charged for it. Somehow, t-mobile automatically switch my call from using T-mobile network to wifi calling and charged me. I find this not acceptable.
- SmithBrNewbie Caller
I had the same rude shock after making two direct calls from the U.S. to Europe. I have been very happy with the T-Mobile plans for coverage outside of the U.S but didn't expect this at all since it was not something I was informed about when signing up for my plan. It is undoubtedly buried somewhere in the fine print but no salesperson mentioned it when I was signing up. It also doesn't help that the page on the T-mobile website where you can calculate international dialing rates is broken.Llamar al exterior | Servicios internacionales desde EE.UU. | T-Mobile No matter what country you type into the box you get back a message that it cannot be found. Probably just a coincidence but T-Mobile, with which I have been very happy could do a much better job of transparency on this particular matter. $3.00 a minute for an international call is something from another era.
- Jlm1982Newbie Caller
T mobile just charged me $5.99 a minute for wifi calls to US numbers when the plan clearly states wifi calling to us numbers:no fee! $215 for a 38 minute call!!! They hit me with $400 in extra charges and I see I'm not the only one… we should get an attorney and get together!
- L_YoungNewbie Caller
I was duped into purchasing the Stateside International Talk plan that you can add for $15 a month. To my surprised Jamaica was not part of the plan. Even though the agent was the one that told me I should purchase it when she saw I was in Jamaica and make a few calls. She claimed it would be free. When I saw my bill it was over $1000!! I was in shock and had to fight to get my bill reduced.
After some time they finally took the charges off, however I am shocked to see the $3.00 charges on my bill from calls that weren't even officially connected. I also see the same charges for WIFI and Data. Why tell me the difference if you are going to charge me $3 anyway?? These phone companies are already making billions off of us. Why charge us so much for this???
- drnewcombFiber Fanatic
The moral of the story is to avoid T-Mobile international rack rates at all time, under all circumstances. Far better to use Google Voice, FaceTime, etc.
All WiFi calling does it to act as the "last mile" between your phone and T-Mobile's switch. Sometimes the "last mile" is just that and other times it can be thousands of miles but it just gets your call back to the switch. From the switch to the recipient is where you can run into problems.
- Deranged_ChefTransmission Trainee
The link & table by @magentatechie is helpful, but generally there are two problems with this info. When it says "unlimited plan", it is not clear if we speak of postpaid or prepaid plans or both. Historically, most info always applied to postpaid only unless stated otherwise.
If the example of international travel, if one has a prepaid plan, it is virtually impossible to know if certain missing features are offered anyway as an expensive non-plan option (like the world class rates) , or simply do not work (as maybe expected, or hoped for to avoid surprise charges).
I, for one, have a prepaid "$15 Connect by TMO UNL Talk&Text" plan that is not supposed to work at all outside of the US. Now, if I travel to the Dominican Republic, for example, how do I know if I can use WiFi calling there? Will all US texts and calls have no fee, as the table says? Or will WiFi calling be blocked anyway because the SIM card should not work in that country in the first place? I know, technically WiFi calling should work in any case, but enabling this function might still be a foremost contractual ability. Not sure if this makes sense how I explained it, but scenarios like this are just not well explained, I can't be sure about what will happen before traveling.
- drnewcombFiber Fanatic
L Young wrote:
….. Why charge us so much for this???
I don;t really know unless: 1) It's a ploy to get you to sign up for the $15/mo add-on international calling feature or 2) When you're domestic roaming T-Mobile gets charged a lot for these calls by some roaming partners (cough Commnet cough). I just use GV for any overseas calls.
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