Has ping / tracert been blocked on 5g network?

Testing with a Garuda Linux client with a verbose ping to 8.8.8.8 currently it runs with roughly 100 ms latency but out of 43 packets sent 13 received responses so roughly 70% packet loss. Running a speedtest I am still obtaining 275-300 down and meh… 21 mbps upload so the bandwidth is there but the ICMP traffic is impaired or throttled. I sort of suspect it has something to do with throttling for one reason or another. I suppose it may be related to changes with the CGNAT solution but probably a throttling of the traffic. Testing with a MacBook Pro via a thunderbolt to ethernet adapter the response times are worse than with either of the Linux clients I have used but still bad either way. 

traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

1  www.webgui.nokiawifi.com (192.168.12.1)  2.145 ms  0.376 ms  0.279 ms

2  192.0.0.1 (192.0.0.1)  0.533 ms  0.698 ms  0.449 ms

3  * 192.0.0.1 (192.0.0.1)  27.721 ms  29.890 ms

4  * * 192.0.0.1 (192.0.0.1)  35.968 ms

5  192.0.0.1 (192.0.0.1)  30.243 ms *  46.172 ms

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10  10.164.162.176 (10.164.162.176)  509.603 ms * *

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16  *^C

Pretty clear it is useless without using a VPN.