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djb14336
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3 years ago

But... are those ports truly opening for full peer-to-peer traffic?  As in, can unsolicited inbound traffic get through?

That is the true root of the problem... not just whether UPnP or manual port forwarding can be setup locally on the router.  There needs to be the ability to have unsolicited inbound traffic from the edge of their network all the way to and through your modem.

 

As in, if you were to use port probing tools at the likes of speedguide.net or grc.com's shields up! tests and verify supposedly open ports are actually open to your forward facing IPv4 address.

 

To date, their network topology above the modems has been breaking such peering traffic, regardless of whether our local routers appeared to be opening ports locally.  Sure, consoles and the like may report less restrictive NAT and such... but when the truly unsolicited peering traffic needs to come in, things still failed to work properly.

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I just got my gateway in yesterday... I must say, I'm highly disappointed and I only wish I researched this further before I ordered it...I've already done multiple searches...","body@stringLength":"1400","rawBody":"

Hey guys, I'm new here... I just got my gateway in yesterday... I must say, I'm highly disappointed and I only wish I researched this further before I ordered it...I've already done multiple searches on this topic, so I'm not gonna ask the question I've been wanting to ask which was: \"Why isn't my connection open NAT?\", or \"Why can't I port forward?\". I've pretty much answered all of those questions myself by simply searching. I have taken it upon myself to call T-mobile's tech support anyways in the event that somehow a miracle is sent my way....

 

Fortunately for me, a very kind gentleman by the name of Alex, employee number 786457, assured me that they will be fixing the problem within a 48 hour period. I was told there will be some Beta software sent to my unit \"possibly\". And yes, that was the word used... Not sure how far I can believe that, seeing as how a lot of you are having issues. But anyway, this is my journey. I will post some updates here n there to let y'all know the outcome. Worst case scenario this causes me to vacate the community & the service entirely. Because this is probably one of the largest handicaps any network can have, it's almost like having parental control without it actually being implemented. Stay tuned folks, I'll let you know what happens. 

 

Hopefully this \"beta\" program isn't bullcucky.

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Hey guys, I'm new here... I just got my gateway in yesterday... I must say, I'm highly disappointed and I only wish I researched this further before I ordered it...I've already done multiple searches on this topic, so I'm not gonna ask the question I've been wanting to ask which was: \"Why isn't my connection open NAT?\", or \"Why can't I port forward?\". I've pretty much answered all of those questions myself by simply searching. I have taken it upon myself to call T-mobile's tech support anyways in the event that somehow a miracle is sent my way....

 

Fortunately for me, a very kind gentleman by the name of Alex, employee number 786457, assured me that they will be fixing the problem within a 48 hour period. I was told there will be some Beta software sent to my unit \"possibly\". And yes, that was the word used... Not sure how far I can believe that, seeing as how a lot of you are having issues. But anyway, this is my journey. I will post some updates here n there to let y'all know the outcome. Worst case scenario this causes me to vacate the community & the service entirely. Because this is probably one of the largest handicaps any network can have, it's almost like having parental control without it actually being implemented. Stay tuned folks, I'll let you know what happens. 

 

Hopefully this \"beta\" program isn't bullcucky.

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But... are those ports truly opening for full peer-to-peer traffic?  As in, can unsolicited inbound traffic get through?

That is the true root of the problem... not just whether UPnP or manual port forwarding can be setup locally on the router.  There needs to be the ability to have unsolicited inbound traffic from the edge of their network all the way to and through your modem.

 

As in, if you were to use port probing tools at the likes of speedguide.net or grc.com's shields up! tests and verify supposedly open ports are actually open to your forward facing IPv4 address.

 

To date, their network topology above the modems has been breaking such peering traffic, regardless of whether our local routers appeared to be opening ports locally.  Sure, consoles and the like may report less restrictive NAT and such... but when the truly unsolicited peering traffic needs to come in, things still failed to work properly.

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But... are those ports truly opening for full peer-to-peer traffic?  As in, can unsolicited inbound traffic get through?

That is the true root of the problem... not just whether UPnP or manual port forwarding can be setup locally on the router.  There needs to be the ability to have unsolicited inbound traffic from the edge of their network all the way to and through your modem.

 

As in, if you were to use port probing tools at the likes of speedguide.net or grc.com's shields up! tests and verify supposedly open ports are actually open to your forward facing IPv4 address.

 

To date, their network topology above the modems has been breaking such peering traffic, regardless of whether our local routers appeared to be opening ports locally.  Sure, consoles and the like may report less restrictive NAT and such... but when the truly unsolicited peering traffic needs to come in, things still failed to work properly.

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