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Carrier Lock (SIM_locked) on iPhone SE (2nd gen) - cannot be removed
I bought 2 new iPhone SE (2nd gen) from Apple when the product was released. Then, I brough them to my T-mobile lines. Now, I am about to sell them so that I can start using new devices. In one of the phones, the Carrier Lock field is "SIM Locked", which makes me very angry, because I never owed anything to T-mobile on these devices.
I talked to 3 technicians on T-mobile side, and 1 from Apple Care. The Apple technician said they don't set Carrier Lock and they can't clear it. The T-mobile technicians told me that they have cleared this phone in their system so that I should just live with the "SIM Locked" on my phone, because they don't have a mechanism to clear it.
This is unfair to me in 2 ways: (1) potential buyers may shy away from my phone because it says that the phone is locked to a carrier; (2) T-mobile should have never put a lock on my phone in the first place, resulting in my tedious phone call with multiple technicians to no vail.
I wonder if someone has a clever way to clear it?
Model number. The carrier unlocked version has a different model number than the Tmobile version.
I understand that they are both SE’s 2nd Gen but the clerk who sold them gave you the Tmobile version by mistake.
gracias @gramps28 for bringing up the model number difference. Looks like that is the key to why one phone would lock and the other wouldn't. The flex policy that @syaoran brought up does make unlocking interesting. @jyuan2004 Since the phone was purchased through Apple, the unlock process is a little bit different. If you remove the sim card and reset the phone, it should automatically unlock during that process and be ready to use the new sim card. If you do the reset and it still says that it is not compatible with a non-T-Mobile SIM, then you would need to reach one of our care experts and most people on the Community like to do that by direct messaging us through Facebook or Twitter. You'll tell them your situation and then ask them to follow the process for iPhones purchased from 3rd party retailer. That request takes a couple days, but it ensures that all systems know that the phone should not be locked to T-Mobile.
Both phones have been working flawlessly since day one. There has never been any repair or replacement.
also by chance was the one that is unable to be unlocked ever insurance/warranty replaced?
Model number makes a difference.
The model numbers are different:
NX9M2LL/A <--with carrier lock
MX9N2LL/A <--without carrier lock
Thanks for the tip!
In April/May 2020, all Apple stores were closed due to the onset of COVID-19. So I ordered them online. They came in separate packages, but I didn't give it much thought. I never paid any attention to the models, and it's quite a surprise to see that they are different!
Model number. The carrier unlocked version has a different model number than the Tmobile version.
I understand that they are both SE’s 2nd Gen but the clerk who sold them gave you the Tmobile version by mistake.
Both are iPhone SE 2nd gen, and bought in 1 order from Apple, fully paid, in 2020.
I have always used T-mobile in the recent 15 years. So, there is no other carrier in this picture.
Are they both the same model number? You may have received a fully unlocked phone and one that locks to the first carrier.
If each device would lock to the first SIM, why the other phone didn't have this lock? This story smells fishy.
I imagine that the 2 lines were activated by 2 technicians, and one did the right things, and the other made a mistake. For devices that owe T-mobile money, the lock should be applied. For devices that don't owe money, they should not be locked. What should be done in each case is up to the technician to follow the procedures. Anyway, I don't want to blame the technician for the mistake. We are human and mistakes can happen.
My desire is to remove the lock on my phone. The procedure is a bit too complicated as of now, it seems. I hope they will solve this problem and develop a good procedure so that other technicians can follow and other customers can avoid the troubles that I got today.
You can thank Apple's reseller flex Policy for the device locking to the first SIM you out in it. If you meet all of the SIM Unlock Policy requirements, you can request that T-Mobile submit to Apple to remove the SIM lock on your device. You must be a T-Mobile USA customer and your account and device must meet all of the SIM Unlock Policy requirements. If the device was not purchased from T-Mobile. You will need to submit the original sales receipt along with your request.
https://www.t-mobile.com/responsibility/consumer-info/policies/sim-unlock-policy
