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Terms of Service pilicy Change and Fines against customers
BREAKING:
has quietly updated their TOS to include fines for content they don't agree with. Beginning on January 1, 2024, they will be fining users who commit perceived violations on their bandwidth. Who knew in America that the phone providers would now be policing the content of your text messages to fine you. S.H.A.F.T. is an acronym that stands for Sex, Hate, Alcohol, Firearms, and Tobacco. It outlines the categories of text messages specifically regulated due to moral and legal issues and is monitored and enforced by the Cellular Telephone Industries Association (CTIA) and the mobile carriers. Who gets to determine what is and isn't "hateful"? Will political text messages be censored now as well going into 2024? This is what
did to me in 2019/2020 when I ran for Congress. I warned people that it would happen to others when nobody did anything to stop this when it happened to me as a congressional candidate! Nice TOS date change! Just in time for the GOP primary and 2024 presidential election! Nothing to see here!
- wdavis0001Newbie Caller
It bothers me greatly that Tmobile can see this site and has not responded to our concerns. But what concerns me even more, if true, is Tmobile has decided they will be Judge, Jury, and Executioner when an issue comes up that they disagree with.
If confirmed, I will change to another company. Yes, other companies may follow suit, but I don't have to have a phone. Only had a party line for years, so doing without a phone would just be going back to the old days for me, and I am not opposed if it means keeping my Liberty!!
- mdarjanyNewbie Caller
Yes, it's a bad look. I am looking around looking to validate the "it's coming from the government," part. Freedom of speech is not regulated in any non-indentured service like the U.S. military--not by any entity. But I don't like the "TMobile is regulating our speech" part when it's potentially qualified. Either way is bad, but the assertion is not specific and we are jumping to inaccurate conclusions too quickly these days.
I make this mistake sometimes, too. I have grace with this stuff (OP) as I hope others would be gracious with my inaccuracies. But I would love it if we could validate anything before announcing it. A link to the TOS would have been a strong start.
- wdavis0001Newbie Caller
Just talked to Tmobile and they said this is only for Merchandisers and it is coming from the government.
Not sure it that is true, but it looks bad either way.
- gramps28Router Royalty
Koreanhope wrote:
If this happens all military personnel will boycott Tmobile. Guaranteed!
It's not for the consumer.
- KoreanhopeNewbie Caller
If this happens all military personnel will boycott Tmobile. Guaranteed!
- NBTexasNewbie Caller
I searched T-Mobile website and I could not find anything. I decided to call and speak to a customer representative.
I told her what I read but cannot verify the information on T-Mobile website. She researched non-compliance fines and shaft. She told me that T-Mobile has not made a decision about this policy.
I clarified that this policy is being considered by T-Mobile. I asked her where can I find information about it. She told me there is nothing available yet. She read a paragraph that stated info on shaft and read T-Mobile will apply this policy on a case to case basis.
I brought to her attention that what she read states T-Mobile is going to implement this policy or already is implementing it. She said yes. ( I don't think she understood the gravity of the policy).
I asked who I can speak to about this and I explained that this is not okay ( I was very polite) and I will be sharing this information on social media.
she placed me on hold when she came back she backtracked everything she just told me. She said her manager will report the information to upper-management and thank you for letting them know about the false information.She then said I forgot to get your name. I just chuckled. I gave her my name and told her great I'll probably be receiving a fine soon.
As soon as I can I'm leaving all large carriers and going to try patriot mobile. I don't know what else to do.
On a side note to the people who said this is absolutely not true. With all due respect and I come from a place of kindness. The days that we once knew of Civil liberties, privacy ethical business practices freedom of speech basically the constitution are being ignored and taken. The government agencies that use to protect us are now being weaponized against everyday civilians. Please wake up before we lose all of our rights. - gramps28Router Royalty
It's not for Tmobile customers per reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/USMobile/comments/18qd98k/do_tmobile_tos_changes_affect_all_usm_customers/
- VSZNGRFXRoaming Rookie
IDK whether this is true or not (nothing surprises me anymore) however I do agree that that either way would be a violation of civil rights and rights of privacy under the Constitution.
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