Home Internet - 4G LTE vs 5G

Because frequency, range, and signal strength are so important, and the fact that home internet MUST be consistent,  and the distance for home is fixed,  T-Moblile MUST provide  something in the User Interface to allow us to lock on to the signal that best fits our location and needs.

Good discussion. 2ndary pops between N41 and N71. 2ndary always better than B2 but on N41 its close. Speeds super when on N42.eg 400 with downloads more variable 10-30. When on N71 speeds food eg around 200. T-Mobile is adding sprint towers etc so there is likely to be changes to signal in an area over time with a lot of expansion NY 2023? Frequency is signal important here as sprint is faster nut not penetrate as much and more likely to be affected by interference. So distance from tower, frequency, interference all are factors and specific to an individual. It does seem that they are using the secondary signal in my case. Its the same for my cell. It is my understanding the cell can use all bands in a "layer cake" type association but not sure if this is the case with home internet. The only problem I have had is the data coming down is interrupted despite strong wifi connection. Only rebooting corrects this completely. I can reboot by being on the wifi on the modem and going into the app to reboot. This seemed to happen once or twice day but now ?? less. What is causing this to happen is unclear. Would not be able to reboot if away from home which would be a problem but have read that Tmobile tech can do this remotely if you push them but have not confirmed this. Otherwise the internet seems to work quite well on my many device setup.

mikew1956 wrote:

I'd like to know the answer to this, too. My primary is B41 and secondary, which I only have occasionally, is N71. Download speeds are usually around 75-80 mps. Sometimes the download speeds reach into the 200mps range but only for short periods.

I, too, would like to know the solution to this. My primary is B41, and my secondary is N71, which I only get on rare occasions. The average download speed is 75-80 Mbps. Download speeds can occasionally exceed 200 Mbps, but only for a brief time. For my lol dolls shop, I'm the best on the internet. Please suggest something to me.

My experiences seem to indicate that with the n41 band operating on the higher frequency, that unless the cell tower is almost in your backyard and no obstructions, the ability for it to carry much data is lost. As a result you will probably be operating on the 4g band 2 or b66 and not the 5g band. Since n71 is a lower frequency 5g band I get the best results when it is my secondary.

My sentiments exactly! I will say that performance is improving. I don't have to call quite as often and now many times it's only to let them know it happened again. Most times I can get back to the good bands myself by powering off, unplugging and letting it sit for a couple of minutes. The time between failures is increasing.

Like you, there's no way on God's green earth I'm going back to Spectrum. I'd rather suffer some than deal with them.

WillRaq wrote:

My situation is that band 41 signal is not as strong as band 71. Data rate I get on 41 is useless so device reverts to the B66 4g signal. When I can stay on 71 I get 3 bars and between 100 and 150 Mbs. At all other times everything is at 2 bars with data rates ranging from 5 to  25 Mbs.

I wish there was some way to lock on to the band 71 signal.

Same here. When my can is on n71, I get satisfactory down/up speeds. But when it switches to n41, all internet traffic stops. Zilch. I'm on a first name basis with several T-Mobile reps. Have several engineering trouble tickets open. I won't go back to cable but about to look at Verizon's 5G Home internet product 

My situation is that band 41 signal is not as strong as band 71. Data rate I get on 41 is useless so device reverts to the B66 4g signal. When I can stay on 71 I get 3 bars and between 100 and 150 Mbs. At all other times everything is at 2 bars with data rates ranging from 5 to  25 Mbs.

I wish there was some way to lock on to the band 71 signal.

Kohn4Life wrote:

Firstly, I love being away from my cable company. I hate Spectrum for so many reasons.

Next, I have a T-Mobile grey cylinder gateway. I've attached a Mimo panel antenna to it. The tower I connect to regularly is ¾ a mile from my home. My average internet ping is 39-150. Average download speed is between .05-39 Mbps. Average upload speed is between 10-35. All of my values are fluctuating constantly, even when utilized on 'off-peak' hours, say 2:00 AM.

My primary signal is 4G and it's usually at 2 bars. RSRP between -105 & -100, SNR 4 to 4, RSRQ -20 to -15.

My secondary signal is 5G and it's usually at 4 bars. RSRP between -76 to -83, SNR 6 to 12, RSRQ -12.

 

I've asked T-Mobile several times how or why my 4G signal is so much weaker than my 5G since 4G is stronger, travels further, penetrates more etc. No one can answer me. I've also asked why my 5G signal can be so good and my numbers be so low at off hours and no one can answer me. I had actually been told by one representative that the home gateway does not use any 4G bands to operate (I don't think that's the case).

I have seen that my secondary signal will disconnect randomly. It will then establish a connection with band n41 and the speeds and consistency are fantastic. Shortly there after it will switch to n71 and everything just comes to a standstill. No one at T-Mobile can tell me why for that either.

I'm a regular caller, maybe twice a day since I've gotten service at my residence a month and a half ago. I've asked to speak with someone, anyone with technical knowledge and that is not a thing that they do.

Since there is no one that works at T-Mobile with any technical knowledge, is there anyone here that can help illuminate my situation over here? Oh right, the T-Mobile coverage map has me dead center in a 5GUC area as well, if that helps with anything.

Firstly, I love being away from my cable company. I hate Spectrum for so many reasons. Next, I have a T-Mobile grey cylinder gateway. I've attached a Mimo panel antenna to it. The tower I connect to regularly is ¾ a mile from my home. My average internet ping is 39-150. Average download speed is between .05-39 Mbps. Average upload speed is between 10-35. All of my values are fluctuating constantly, even when utilized on 'off-peak' hours, say 2:00 AM.

My primary signal is 4G and it's usually at 2 bars. RSRP between -105 & -100, SNR 4 to 4, RSRQ -20 to -15.

My secondary signal is 5G and it's usually at 4 bars. RSRP between -76 to -83, SNR 6 to 12, RSRQ -12.

 

I've asked T-Mobile several times how or why my 4G signal is so much weaker than my 5G since 4G is stronger, travels further, penetrates more etc. No one can answer me. I've also asked why my 5G signal can be so good and my numbers be so low at off hours and no one can answer me. I had actually been told by one representative that the home gateway does not use any 4G bands to operate (I don't think that's the case).

I have seen that my secondary signal will disconnect randomly. It will then establish a connection with band n41 and the speeds and consistency are fantastic. Shortly there after it will switch to n71 and everything just comes to a standstill. No one at T-Mobile can tell me why for that either.

I'm a regular caller, maybe twice a day since I've gotten service at my residence a month and a half ago. I've asked to speak with someone, anyone with technical knowledge and that is not a thing that they do.

Since there is no one that works at T-Mobile with any technical knowledge, is there anyone here that can help illuminate my situation over here? Oh right, the T-Mobile coverage map has me dead center in a 5GUC area as well, if that helps with anything.

 

My primary signal is 4G and it’s usually at 2 bars.

RSRP between -105 & -100

SNR 4 to 4

RSRQ -20 to -15.

My secondary signal is 5G and it’s usually at 4 bars.

RSRP between -76 to -83

SNR 6 to 12

RSRQ -12

So I have a m71 2 miles to the NW, a n41 3 miles to the SW and the B66 .5 miles to the W.

Puts me in a messed up spot as the can depending on where I place it could not make up it's mind. I want the n41 since its crazy fast.

I have discovered the can needs a good 4G to make use of the 5G.

I have many post about my history but in the end I installed an external antenna pointed it at the n41 tower and the rest is history. Can stays locked on that n41 24/7 like a rock never a blip.

With your weak 4g and seem competing 5g n71 vs n42 you need to find the exact locations of each and make a plan how to hold the n41 and the 4g solid. I found cellmapper to be way out of date and mostly useless. I called TM tech asked them of the locations of al the towers and bands in my area and then used Google maps to plot out my plan.

Also radio waves are funny if I move my external antennal just a few feet either way signal changes so there are sweet spots you have to find.

Firstly, I love being away from my cable company. I hate Spectrum for so many reasons.

Next, I have a T-Mobile grey cylinder gateway. I've attached a Mimo panel antenna to it. The tower I connect to regularly is ¾ a mile from my home. My average internet ping is 39-150. Average download speed is between .05-39 Mbps. Average upload speed is between 10-35. All of my values are fluctuating constantly, even when utilized on 'off-peak' hours, say 2:00 AM.

My primary signal is 4G and it's usually at 2 bars. RSRP between -105 & -100, SNR 4 to 4, RSRQ -20 to -15.

My secondary signal is 5G and it's usually at 4 bars. RSRP between -76 to -83, SNR 6 to 12, RSRQ -12.

I've asked T-Mobile several times how or why my 4G signal is so much weaker than my 5G since 4G is stronger, travels further, penetrates more etc. No one can answer me. I've also asked why my 5G signal can be so good and my numbers be so low at off hours and no one can answer me. I had actually been told by one representative that the home gateway does not use any 4G bands to operate (I don't think that's the case).

I have seen that my secondary signal will disconnect randomly. It will then establish a connection with band n41 and the speeds and consistency are fantastic. Shortly there after it will switch to n71 and everything just comes to a standstill. No one at T-Mobile can tell me why for that either.

I'm a regular caller, maybe twice a day since I've gotten service at my residence a month and a half ago. I've asked to speak with someone, anyone with technical knowledge and that is not a thing that they do.

Since there is no one that works at T-Mobile with any technical knowledge, is there anyone here that can help illuminate my situation over here? Oh right, the T-Mobile coverage map has me dead center in a 5GUC area as well, if that helps with anything.

Firstly, I love being away from my cable company. I hate Spectrum for so many reasons. Next, I have a T-Mobile grey cylinder gateway. I've attached a Mimo panel antenna to it. The tower I connect to regularly is ¾ a mile from my home. My average internet ping is 39-150. Average download speed is between .05-39 Mbps. Average upload speed is between 10-35. All of my values are fluctuating constantly, even when utilized on 'off-peak' hours, say 2:00 AM.

My primary signal is 4G and it's usually at 2 bars. RSRP between -105 & -100, SNR 4 to 4, RSRQ -20 to -15.

My secondary signal is 5G and it's usually at 4 bars. RSRP between -76 to -83, SNR 6 to 12, RSRQ -12.

I've asked T-Mobile several times how or why my 4G signal is so much weaker than my 5G since 4G is stronger, travels further, penetrates more etc. No one can answer me. I've also asked why my 5G signal can be so good and my numbers be so low at off hours and no one can answer me. I had actually been told by one representative that the home gateway does not use any 4G bands to operate (I don't think that's the case).

I have seen that my secondary signal will disconnect randomly. It will then establish a connection with band n41 and the speeds and consistency are fantastic. Shortly there after it will switch to n71 and everything just comes to a standstill. No one at T-Mobile can tell me why for that either.

I'm a regular caller, maybe twice a day since I've gotten service at my residence a month and a half ago. I've asked to speak with someone, anyone with technical knowledge and that is not a thing that they do.

Since there is no one that works at T-Mobile with any technical knowledge, is there anyone here that can help illuminate my situation over here? Oh right, the T-Mobile coverage map has me dead center in a 5GUC area as well, if that helps with anything.

You guys are lucky. My normal speeds are between less than 1 Mps to less than 10 Mbps.