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Re: Misleading sales reps
What have I said has led you to believe I don't understand what a down payment is? I realize a down payment is not an imaginary amount of money tmobile comes up with, I pay, and then it magically disappears. Whatever you are to tmoblie means very little to me at this point, I've accomplished what I set out to do via private message with a "tmobile" representative and I'm growing tired of you passive aggressively questioning my intelligence. I'm done with this conversation its exhausting repeating my point to someone who neither gets it nor is helpful in anyway. Thank you tmobile for acknowledging my concerns. For the time being I will remain a tmobile customer.
9 years ago Place Accounts & Services
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Re: Misleading sales reps
I originally signed up for tmobile at the West Tusc location in Canton, Oh. Honestly it would have been great for someone to have given me a resolution to my 400 dollar dilemma. However I'm happy to have been a driving force for future tmobile customers to more informed. Its not the best case scenario for me personally but if it sparked future adjustments within the tmobile family, I can live with that. Side bar although informed customers helping with technical support may be helpful, customers that are upset about monetary issues don't want to be talked to by, for lack of a better phrase, an inside man.
9 years ago Place Accounts & Services
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Re: Misleading sales reps
I apologize for thinking that someone so adamant about defending the tmobile way was an employee. I mean it would be impossible for an employee of tmobile to come into a "community" thread and try to combat complaints about the company. And truthfully and respectfully your interpretation of that scripted response is irrelevant. Ill humor it for one second however, an agreement between you and us it says. But who is us and why are representative of tmobile excluded from that. Frankly it's contradictory. I also don't agree that you've been the gleaming example of objectivity you claim to be. Regardless there is no reason for you to continue to defend them as I said I'm not trying to get anything from this. On the shear off chance you don't work for tmobile you've actually educated anyone reading this much more then tmobile paid employees did for me.
9 years ago Place Accounts & Services
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Re: Misleading sales reps
Again not arguing policy and do you represent tmobile? Some of these responses are very cookie cutout to say the least. Or maybe these are just computer generated responses to key words. I'm not sure either way and to be honest couldn't care less. My biggest concern is with the training of tmobile staff and the regard for customer satisfaction. See obviously members of the tmobile team are either improperly trained on how they should convey tmobile policy, or they are just lying. In most cases the best answer is the simplest. Now if one of tmobile's employees is lying to customers or theyre just poorly trained it's damaging to the relationship between the two. I just happen to be an unsatisfied one. Neverless, I was misinformed of the rules, I never once argued. I'm simply trying to spread awareness to what people should expect from SOME tmobile employees. Again not policy and I'm proving my point now if you do in fact work for tmobile. Nothing about misinformation has been addressed by sn_555, only what seem to be scripted responses to something I'm not even debating. In the most layman way I can put it...I understand a down payment is needed to upgrade, I understand how jump works, and most of all I get that tmobile can't just give the house away, but when an employee makes a mistake the company should try to at least meet in the middle. No such offers were given and not even an apology was offered...that's just poor customer service.
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Re: Misleading sales reps
You misunderstand my intentions, I'm not arguing policy. If that's what is required to upgrade I fully understand. My goal was to convey to old and new customers of tmobile that upgrading isn't as easy on the wallet as your store representatives will lead them to believe. That's one issue with paying employees based off commission. I manage a successful restaurant and tipped employees will tend to make a deal seem sweeter then it may be to insure a greater tip. In these cases we as superior chock it up to human nature, honor the deal that may have been made, inform the customer its not our policy, and then deal with said employee accordingly. Just like athletes reflect their coaches or paramedics reflect doctors, they reflect upon us and it is our responsibility, in some cases, to follow the code that the customer is always right. I'm not trying to get anything for free just what I was offered but since that did not happen I have made it a goal of mine to let others know what they may be getting as opposed to what they are told by the evident "used car salesman" you have working at some of your stores. I say that loosely and am not making a generalization about tmobile employees as a whole. Still it remains true, I was misinformed and nothing was done to correct the issue. I understand people make mistakes this one just happened to be at my 400 dollar expense.
9 years ago Place Accounts & Services
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Representante de ventas engañoso
About six months ago I changed from AT&T to tmobile. Aside from the occasional no service...I've had a good time using them for my mobile provider, however if something sounds to good to be true, it probably is. I was told by a salesmen in the store that the jump program would allow me to upgrade free of charge once the price of my phone was paid half way off. Now that's only partially true. There may not be any additional activation to your new device but you are responsible for another hefty down payment. I recently attempted to upgrade to a new Samsung phone and was told my down payment would be 399 since I have less then great credit and I haven't been a customer for 12 months. When I originally signed up I notified them the phone I would be purchasing that day was a transitional device until the Samsung g7 edge came out and that I wasn't going to want any additional cost when I upgraded. They assured me there would be no issue. When I attempted to JUMP over the phone they told me the exact opposite. So now I'm stuck with a stylo2 I never wanted and is only worth the 89 dollars I still owe on it. I also informed them my current device has a very low battery life and they suggested I swap it out for a new stylo2. When I informed them that I'm currently searching for a better offer a representative of tmobile wished me "good luck" and told me to have a pleasant day... Future upgraders beware, lots of smoke and mirrors in the tmoblie arsenal.
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I realize a down payment is not an imaginary amount of money tmobile comes up with, I pay, and then it magically disappears. Whatever you are to tmoblie means very little to me at this point, I've accomplished what I set out to do via private message with a \"tmobile\" representative and I'm growing tired of you passive aggressively questioning my intelligence. I'm done with this conversation its exhausting repeating my point to someone who neither gets it nor is helpful in anyway. Thank you tmobile for acknowledging my concerns. For the time being I will remain a tmobile customer. 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Honestly it would have been great for someone to have given me a resolution to my 400 dollar dilemma. However I'm happy to have been a driving force for future tmobile customers to more informed. Its not the best case scenario for me personally but if it sparked future adjustments within the tmobile family, I can live with that. Side bar although informed customers helping with technical support may be helpful, customers that are upset about monetary issues don't want to be talked to by, for lack of a better phrase, an inside man. 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I mean it would be impossible for an employee of tmobile to come into a \"community\" thread and try to combat complaints about the company. And truthfully and respectfully your interpretation of that scripted response is irrelevant. Ill humor it for one second however, an agreement between you and us it says. But who is us and why are representative of tmobile excluded from that. Frankly it's contradictory. I also don't agree that you've been the gleaming example of objectivity you claim to be. Regardless there is no reason for you to continue to defend them as I said I'm not trying to get anything from this. On the shear off chance you don't work for tmobile you've actually educated anyone reading this much more then tmobile paid employees did for me. 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Some of these responses are very cookie cutout to say the least. Or maybe these are just computer generated responses to key words. I'm not sure either way and to be honest couldn't care less. My biggest concern is with the training of tmobile staff and the regard for customer satisfaction. See obviously members of the tmobile team are either improperly trained on how they should convey tmobile policy, or they are just lying. In most cases the best answer is the simplest. Now if one of tmobile's employees is lying to customers or theyre just poorly trained it's damaging to the relationship between the two. I just happen to be an unsatisfied one. Neverless, I was misinformed of the rules, I never once argued. I'm simply trying to spread awareness to what people should expect from SOME tmobile employees. Again not policy and I'm proving my point now if you do in fact work for tmobile. Nothing about misinformation has been addressed by sn_555, only what seem to be scripted responses to something I'm not even debating. In the most layman way I can put it...I understand a down payment is needed to upgrade, I understand how jump works, and most of all I get that tmobile can't just give the house away, but when an employee makes a mistake the company should try to at least meet in the middle. No such offers were given and not even an apology was offered...that's just poor customer service. 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If that's what is required to upgrade I fully understand. My goal was to convey to old and new customers of tmobile that upgrading isn't as easy on the wallet as your store representatives will lead them to believe. That's one issue with paying employees based off commission. I manage a successful restaurant and tipped employees will tend to make a deal seem sweeter then it may be to insure a greater tip. In these cases we as superior chock it up to human nature, honor the deal that may have been made, inform the customer its not our policy, and then deal with said employee accordingly. Just like athletes reflect their coaches or paramedics reflect doctors, they reflect upon us and it is our responsibility, in some cases, to follow the code that the customer is always right. I'm not trying to get anything for free just what I was offered but since that did not happen I have made it a goal of mine to let others know what they may be getting as opposed to what they are told by the evident \"used car salesman\" you have working at some of your stores. I say that loosely and am not making a generalization about tmobile employees as a whole. Still it remains true, I was misinformed and nothing was done to correct the issue. I understand people make mistakes this one just happened to be at my 400 dollar expense. 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Aside from the occasional no service...I've had a good time using them for my mobile provider, however if something sounds to good to be true, it probably is. I was told by a salesmen in the store that the jump program would allow me to upgrade free of charge once the price of my phone was paid half way off. Now that's only partially true. There may not be any additional activation to your new device but you are responsible for another hefty down payment. I recently attempted to upgrade to a new Samsung phone and was told my down payment would be 399 since I have less then great credit and I haven't been a customer for 12 months. When I originally signed up I notified them the phone I would be purchasing that day was a transitional device until the Samsung g7 edge came out and that I wasn't going to want any additional cost when I upgraded. They assured me there would be no issue. When I attempted to JUMP over the phone they told me the exact opposite. 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