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Is there anyway to use a separate Wifi mesh router (eg an Orbi) with the new TMO-G4SE

I'm in my 14 day free trial.  I'd like to replace my cox modem with Tmobile's unit feeding into my Orbi mesh network router.  

  • From what I can see and have read TMobile app won't let you turn of the router functionality to just use it as a modem.  Correct?
  • I've read some suggestions to use the T-Mobile box as-is and just connect it to an external router using Ethernet.  Anyone here doing this for awhile without issue?  Don't things get messed up with the external router and T-Mobile router allocating DHCP addresses?
  • Saw another suggestion to use the setup above, but rename the T-Mobile Wi-Fi network different than the external router Wi-Fi network and only connect to the external router Wi-Fi.  Any doing this without an issue?


Thank you for your time and experience…

  • @GrumpyGogs to your questions.

    • From what I can see and have read TMobile app won’t let you turn of the router functionality to just use it as a modem.  Correct? Yes. If you have a wifi router then you need to set the network settings to “bridge” mode on your wifi router, then the TM Gateway will spool out IP addresses to your devices. Otherwise, you will have double-NAT issues. 
    • I’ve read some suggestions to use the T-Mobile box as-is and just connect it to an external router using Ethernet.  Anyone here doing this for awhile without issue?  Yes, I am (and others). Don’t things get messed up with the external router and T-Mobile router allocating DHCP addresses? See above - bridge mode for your home wifi router. I use the Eero 6 Plus and set it to bridge mode. Alll good. 
    • Saw another suggestion to use the setup above, but rename the T-Mobile Wi-Fi network different than the external router Wi-Fi network and only connect to the external router Wi-Fi.  Any doing this without an issue? Some people have had issues with connecting their IoT devices like thermostats and printers to their TM Gateway, so it seems to be a good practice to setup a 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz SSID separately to make the IoT connections easier for devices. This is my practice and it works well. Also, if you have connection issues, set the 2.4Ghz WAP setting to WPA/WPA2.

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I'm in my 14 day free trial.  I'd like to replace my cox modem with Tmobile's unit feeding into my Orbi mesh network router.  


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Bobthetacoman wrote:
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This whole ORBI with T Mobile Gateway thing is scrambling my brains. Right now I have the T Mobile Gateway with it's network & an ORBI router connected to it with its network.  I think I understand what y'all have done. On the T Mobile Gateway you have turned off the wifi signal so it only acts as a modem. Ethernet cable run to Orbi router which I have 3 satellites connected. My question is do I use the ORBI app and use the ORBI and satellites in Router mode or AP mode? Are there any other changes I need to make in the settings? One thing I did notice was that when I had the ORBI router in Router mode I could edit the device names that were connected so I knew what was connected. Now with the ORBI in AP mode some devices show up on T Mobile wifi And some show up on the ORBI network, and there is no way to edit the name of the devices that are connected

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Hello. Very curious if you got this to work and your speeds.

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I like to play games on my pc/stream. But the 5g internet from my tmobile modem is horrible! My signal is not stable no matter where I put my router (basically up against the window where it pointed to the best connection) made no difference. I moved it into my office. I also use it for my online business which is okay since I'm not doing too much, but I wouldn't depend on it still.

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I keep getting 50-200 ping in my games which causes me to lag all over the place. Quite often. I had spectrum before but I was paying more than 2x what I was, rather than now.  I need more stable connection regardless. I hate this 5g latency.

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Anything that can help I'm willing to try but it seems like this setup might not even work if I'm hearing this right. 

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TIA.

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Unfortunately, cell internet has higher ping and latency than cable. There's really nothing you can do beyond installing a 4x4 external antennae. I have two separate Tmobile home Internet lines one is about a mile from the the tower and ping is around 30-40 ms. The other line is less than a quarter mile from the tower and ping is around 18-25 ms. When I was on Xfinity, ping was about 8 ms.

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lcbl75771 wrote:
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This whole ORBI with T Mobile Gateway thing is scrambling my brains. Right now I have the T Mobile Gateway with it's network & an ORBI router connected to it with its network.  I think I understand what y'all have done. On the T Mobile Gateway you have turned off the wifi signal so it only acts as a modem. Ethernet cable run to Orbi router which I have 3 satellites connected. My question is do I use the ORBI app and use the ORBI and satellites in Router mode or AP mode? Are there any other changes I need to make in the settings? One thing I did notice was that when I had the ORBI router in Router mode I could edit the device names that were connected so I knew what was connected. Now with the ORBI in AP mode some devices show up on T Mobile wifi And some show up on the ORBI network, and there is no way to edit the name of the devices that are connected

\t

Hello. Very curious if you got this to work and your speeds.

 

I like to play games on my pc/stream. But the 5g internet from my tmobile modem is horrible! My signal is not stable no matter where I put my router (basically up against the window where it pointed to the best connection) made no difference. I moved it into my office. I also use it for my online business which is okay since I'm not doing too much, but I wouldn't depend on it still.

I keep getting 50-200 ping in my games which causes me to lag all over the place. Quite often. I had spectrum before but I was paying more than 2x what I was, rather than now.  I need more stable connection regardless. I hate this 5g latency.

 

Anything that can help I'm willing to try but it seems like this setup might not even work if I'm hearing this right. 

 

TIA.

 

 

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This whole ORBI with T Mobile Gateway thing is scrambling my brains. Right now I have the T Mobile Gateway with it's network & an ORBI router connected to it with its network.  I think I understand what y'all have done. On the T Mobile Gateway you have turned off the wifi signal so it only acts as a modem. Ethernet cable run to Orbi router which I have 3 satellites connected. My question is do I use the ORBI app and use the ORBI and satellites in Router mode or AP mode? Are there any other changes I need to make in the settings? One thing I did notice was that when I had the ORBI router in Router mode I could edit the device names that were connected so I knew what was connected. Now with the ORBI in AP mode some devices show up on T Mobile wifi And some show up on the ORBI network, and there is no way to edit the name of the devices that are connected

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copz1998 wrote:
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For my setup I only use the TM gateway for internet access. I used the HINT Control app to turn off the gateway SSIDs so I don't experience double NAT issues. I let my eero act as an access point for all connecting devices. However, you can use the gateway as the main point, and set the eero in bridge mode, then it only connects devices and lets the gateway spool out IPs.   
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I hope this helps. 

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Are you getting good speeds using your Eero mesh; same or better than the TMO Gateway's WiFi radios? And how signal bars do you get?  I just started my trial but Sunday afternoon I tried to stream live games on MLB TV but it keep freezing/pixelating (I do get 5 bars of 5g).  Even tried hardwire connection from my Apple TV to TMO G4AR with no luck.  Never had an issue with MLB TV over wifi using Spectrum cable.

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That is what I plan on doing as well.

Do you have any issues with IOT  devices, like cameras or smart thermostats, printers?

you have been very helpful  Thank you

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For my setup I only use the TM gateway for internet access. I used the HINT Control app to turn off the gateway SSIDs so I don't experience double NAT issues. I let my eero act as an access point for all connecting devices. However, you can use the gateway as the main point, and set the eero in bridge mode, then it only connects devices and lets the gateway spool out IPs.   
 

I hope this helps. 

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copz1998 wrote:
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@SandyMike yes, the setup was was very intuitive. My setup looks like this:

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TM Gateway > Eero 6+ < clients get access from eero

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1 ethernet cable from the gateway to the main eero. Then, use the eero app to configure your network. 

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I am very pleased with the results. 

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Do you have the TM gateway wireless turned off?

is there any problems with IOT devices (I have several security cameras)

 

Mike 

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@SandyMike yes, the setup was was very intuitive. My setup looks like this:

TM Gateway > Eero 6+ < clients get access from eero

1 ethernet cable from the gateway to the main eero. Then, use the eero app to configure your network. 

I am very pleased with the results. 

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Don't mean to hijack this, but I am in a very similar situation.

Just started my TMHI 15 day trial.

I am coming from DSL 🤪

I would like to add an eero 6+

@copz1998 you mentioned. You use the eero system.

Is it easy to setup? I can run Ethernet cable if I need to.

I want to have Internet access in my detached woodshop.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated

Mike

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@copz1998 , @Rogracer2000 & @henry51 :  thank you for the responses.  Everything seems to be running smoothly at this point.  

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@GrumpyGogs to your questions.

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